1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,280 Bitches! 2 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,840 You’re a bunch of bitches, nymphomaniacs! 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,680 Get out of our neighborhoods, faggots! 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:18,880 A christian Spain, not a muslim one! 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,680 You’re not Spanish cause you’re not white, asshole! 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,720 This is the worst government in 100 years! 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,160 Heil Franco! 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,000 Heil! 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:32,800 I’m a nazi! 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,680 Iglesias, Galapagar doesn’t want you! 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,120 Get out now, ‘pigtails’! 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,040 Sánchez, go to jail! 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,960 Pedro Sánchez, 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,560 son of a bitch! 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,120 Pedro Sánchez, 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,680 son of a bitch! 17 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:52,560 Go! 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,280 How did we get there? 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,840 A black period begins in Spain’s history. 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,800 The only merit you have is having a deep study 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:12,920 of Pablo Iglesias. 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,480 Sánchez is the best fellow 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,480 of the assassins. 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,160 How did we give the power 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,080 to this gang of crazy 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,840 and psychopath women who are willing 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,440 to destroy every trace of masculinity 28 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:25,640 on Earth? 29 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,320 The putschists who PSOE and Junts are. 30 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:30,920 Taxes are stealing. 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:31,760 And that’s a fact. 32 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:33,240 To the useless 33 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,080 and arrogant Minister of Equality. 34 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:37,640 They are unable to find any man 35 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:38,960 who wants to get close to them 36 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:40,400 less than 500 meters, 37 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,400 or even touch them with a stick. 38 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,520 This fucking shitty retarded girl, frustrated and bitter. 39 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,480 With that face. 40 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,040 No wonder, with that face!! 41 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:49,720 And what do you think about feminism? 42 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:52,480 A disgrace. 43 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,280 A guy gets himself a doll, or says a chick is hot, 44 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,680 and he’s a disgusting lovestruck. 45 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:00,960 Motherfuckers! 46 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,280 You’ve taken everything away from us! 47 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:04,600 Everything! 48 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:05,760 A group of hags 49 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,960 who will end up surrounded by cats, 50 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,320 which are the only living beings 51 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,040 that are able to stand their delirium. 52 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,000 Delirium that has a name: 53 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,360 feminism. 54 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,120 Let’s start! 55 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:18,720 Without mediatic power 56 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,200 we won’t be able to do anything, 57 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:20,760 never. 58 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,520 Or we will always be a marginal 59 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,240 and residual force, a very poor one. 60 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,480 The media creates a common sense 61 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,360 which will be key when it’s voting time. 62 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,600 That common sense 63 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,400 is manipulated by the media. 64 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,080 I think that, when Abascal 65 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,080 goes to the Parliament and says 66 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,680 that Pedro Sánchez is worse than Franco, 67 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,160 who was a dictator, 68 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,440 there have been some youtubers who said that before, 69 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,240 because that’s the way to normalize hate speech. 70 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,680 So, when he gets to the chamber, 71 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,720 the speech is not so crazy to us, 72 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,360 it doesn’t concern us so much. Why? 73 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,400 Because we’ve heard it many times 74 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,760 on the Internet and in the media. 75 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,840 That bullshit about the media being just the messengers… 76 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:03,880 The messengers my foot! 77 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,400 The media are the main political and ideological actor 78 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,120 and that’s why rich people buy the media. 79 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,480 I believe that much of the challenge 80 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,920 we as left or leftist content creators have 81 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:19,600 is to make those contents attractive, 82 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,440 not so much in substance 83 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,360 - cause we have a lot of points - 84 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,080 but in form, which has to be attractive. 85 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:30,240 I mean, you can’t give a talk at 10 am on a Saturday 86 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,640 with a PowerPoint presentation 87 00:03:31,640 --> 00:03:33,000 because young people are not going to attend. 88 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,520 To me, the key is knowing how to summarize, 89 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,200 and make very bright people 90 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,520 give their speech in a minute. 91 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,760 Because we all know leftist people 92 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,120 talk too much. 93 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,240 There are men with a YouTube channel 94 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,360 and they make a living of it. 95 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,120 Just like that. 96 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,880 And maybe, I don’t want to compare, 97 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,200 but maybe they are worse than us. 98 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,760 Only in Spain, if we talk about Europe, 99 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,640 this situation is happening: 100 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,120 The most leftist of all TV channels 101 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,080 has always had as its only referents 102 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,000 in its political talk shows these three people: 103 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,360 Marhuenda, María Claver and Eduardo Inda. 104 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,440 I can’t find the words, 105 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,560 it’s something surreal. 106 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,360 The “progressivist” media has done a lot of harm. 107 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,440 We’ve been in the dark 108 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:17,720 for a really long time. 109 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,240 In absolute darkness. 110 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:37,160 The media’s tale. 111 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,120 Meet Little Susan! 112 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,080 Where is she going? 113 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,160 I’m going to interview my grandma! 114 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,800 Oh no, grandma… 115 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:00,920 What happened? 116 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,680 Oh dear! You wouldn’t believe it! 117 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,920 I went to the groceries and when I came back… 118 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,640 Oh my God, 119 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,920 an evil wolf had broken into my house!! 120 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:17,800 That’s awful, grandma! 121 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,440 But don’t you worry: 122 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,000 everybody’s going to know this. 123 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,280 I went to the groceries and when I came back… 124 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:29,000 Oh my God, 125 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,320 an evil wolf had broken into my house!! 126 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:41,920 Oh boy, this is a tall tale! 127 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,000 You were saying that Inda and company are media squatters, 128 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,640 but no, they’re not squatters: they’re the owners. 129 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,200 The owners are criminals. They are the owners, 130 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,200 therefore they are in charge. 131 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,280 It’s scandalous having this country’s political talk shows 132 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:54,480 ruled by criminals. 133 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,720 And sometimes we are naive when we say 134 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,560 “they should be fired from the media” 135 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,960 because they own the media! 136 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,040 The way we can hit from the left, 137 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,000 I think it’s unifying the little narrative 138 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,640 and the little mediatic force that we have. 139 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,320 #FerrerasGate was an example 140 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,280 of leftist narrative unification. 141 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:12,840 Shortly, 142 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:15,040 but for two months, we did a lot of harm. 143 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,000 We put him between a rock and a hard place. 144 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,400 Their ratings fell down, like two or three points. 145 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,800 Ferreras had to say live: 146 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:22,920 “No, I didn’t know a thing, 147 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,280 I was unaware…” 148 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:27,440 The fact that he had to publicly say all of that 149 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,080 was thanks to 1) those audio files 150 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,320 gave us the legitimacy 151 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,040 to say what we already knew: 152 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,800 they confirmed our points about the media. 153 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,920 There we had a narrative unification. 154 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,520 We all were against them, 155 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,880 from different positions 156 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,000 inside the left, 157 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,440 we united in different 158 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,640 campaigns in Twitter, Instagram, 159 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,880 YouTube, Facebook. 160 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,320 and that created a bubble, 161 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,360 a narrative unification that put 162 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,200 Ferreras between a rock and a hard place. 163 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,200 Eduardo, this is very serious. I go with it 164 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,120 but this is very delicate and it’s too crude. 165 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,640 After he said that was very crude but he went with that, 166 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,800 the very next week they had another hoax, 167 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,440 and the next one, another, 168 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,240 and so on for several years. 169 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,280 The only people who repeated 170 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,560 in every La Sexta Noche political talk show 171 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:14,960 for six years in a row 172 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,240 were Eduardo Inda, Marhuenda and María Claver. 173 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,360 Two people from OK Diario 174 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,280 and the guy from La Razón 175 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,280 who had also been a congressman 176 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,080 for the Popular Party, and whose work 177 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,080 was to misinform or to repeat mantras. 178 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,360 For instance, the one about 179 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Podemos being funded by Venezuela and Iran. 180 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:29,760 Basically, these campaigns, 181 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,040 which have three layers, develop at the same time 182 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,720 in the media, the social media 183 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,480 and in a public, social or political environment. 184 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,840 What I call the Banon method, 185 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,080 or the LHB method: lies, hate and bots. 186 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,680 And the fourth element, which makes this efficient, 187 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,200 is impunity, a total impunity. 188 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,640 I do believe 189 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,360 that hoaxes should be penalized. 190 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,160 It’s super important, and at this point, 191 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,840 I don’t know what body could do it, 192 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,240 maybe an observatory or… 193 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,360 I don’t know. But not Ana Pastor. 194 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,720 No, please. 195 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:02,720 Nor Ferreras. 196 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,600 But spreading hoaxes should have consequences. 197 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,440 And an obligation 198 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,320 to retract in the same media. 199 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,720 Because if Vicente Vallés 200 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,960 spreads hoaxes in the news 201 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,920 and then he doesn’t retract, then it’s useless. 202 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,760 If they only retract with a tweet, 203 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,680 it will probably reach just a few people. 204 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,160 So lying should have consequences. 205 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,440 Which is the way to fight this? 206 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,880 Maybe it’s not to refute hoaxes 207 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,280 - although I find essential 208 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,480 what Bake said about penalizing 209 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:34,720 the media 210 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,080 that generate fake news - but maybe we need to copy 211 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,760 that model but in a positive way. 212 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,880 To broadcast the news in a quick way. 213 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,640 More news. The good ones, you know, the positive ones, the real ones. 214 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:45,960 But having that level. 215 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,640 Instead of saying something happened, and this is the truth 216 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,800 and we’re going to tell it for three fucking months 217 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,560 and again and again… No, no! I’m not giving you the time. 218 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:55,560 Did you assimilate it? Perfect, next! 219 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:57,040 And maybe this way works. 220 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,920 Making things much more direct, because 221 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:03,160 people don’t often have the time to… It seems 222 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,240 that the one who offers a sensational headline which you keep in mind, 223 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:06,360 is the cool guy, 224 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,440 and the person who has a deep analysis 225 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,280 is a bore. 226 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,720 So it’s like “what a drag, 227 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,800 I prefer the fantasy story 228 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,240 of a squatter 229 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,640 and the hero who knocks on the door and…” 230 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,440 Because it’s also told that way: 231 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,360 a super normative narrative 232 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,520 with the good guys, the bad ones, 233 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,560 the hero, the villain and so on. 234 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:28,840 And people don’t reconsider things. It’s like a party pooper. 235 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,240 You say: “Hey, but this…” and they go: “Fuck off, this story is cool”. 236 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,440 Maybe we should appropriate that. 237 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,400 Yes, I think we need to use the way to tell things, 238 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,560 without the hoaxes, 239 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:41,440 but presenting things in a way… Just the model, not the lie. 240 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,200 Just the model, not the lie. 241 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,920 At least in certain cases. 242 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,520 Well, we can sometimes lie a bit. No, no, no! You shouldn’t lie, 243 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,760 it’s not right. Cut, cut! 244 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,600 I think to refute the big media narratives, 245 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,360 we need to start pointing out their flaws, 246 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,880 and this is something we already do. 247 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,680 Julián Macías does it very well, and dedicates a lot of time. 248 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:04,240 But it’s true that 249 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,720 pointing out those flaws of the media, 250 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,280 more than flaws, 251 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,200 deliberated flaws that the media 252 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,560 sometimes make. 253 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:14,120 I think the media 254 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,400 get harmed, for example, 255 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,920 every time they don’t mention 256 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,560 somebody who attends an act. 257 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:20,200 They are pointed for that, right? 258 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,560 Or every time don’t inform you 259 00:10:21,560 --> 00:10:22,480 about a topic they clearly 260 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,400 should have in their agenda, and they are pointed. 261 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,240 And that, 262 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,360 little by little, undermines the power of those media. 263 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:34,560 And I also think that - and this is something that we, 264 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:37,040 as content creators, should do - 265 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,600 we need to create more content, 266 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,680 to value it more, 267 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:43,880 and also ask the people who watch us 268 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,240 for support and funding. 269 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:46,800 And above all, let them see 270 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,320 that if they don’t support us, that way of information, 271 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,480 that podcast, that YouTube channel, 272 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,440 that Twitch channel, won’t no longer exist. 273 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,400 So I think we need to start raising awareness from there, 274 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,040 and hey, somebody will suddenly say 275 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,560 “I’m going to invest in you. Instead of a 4 euros 276 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:04,240 subscription I’m going to donate 277 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,000 2000 euros so you can do better things.” 278 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,320 If people want different information, 279 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,280 and they want it, because we’re seeing 280 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,560 how big networks are falling down on ratings, 281 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:21,240 they have to know it’s necessary to invest and support 282 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,200 in social media, sure. 283 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,760 Why do you think that people believe fake news so easily? 284 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,000 Because they don’t have the time to check them. 285 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,840 I try a lot to see all of this 286 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,000 in that person’s shoes. 287 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,400 Suddenly, for any reason, 288 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,880 there’s a lady with squatters in her building, 289 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,640 and they are conflictive in the neighborhood. 290 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,640 This case is an isolated case, 291 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:47,640 but then the TV networks tell 292 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,520 the story, constantly. 293 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,000 People you know 294 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,480 wreck your head about it. 295 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:53,600 They tell you: 296 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,720 “You asked for a grant for your son and it was denied.” 297 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,840 Maybe because you didn’t meet the requirements, 298 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:58,640 but whatever! 299 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,440 “Your grant was denied, but look at these people coming here, 300 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,920 with benefits, blah blah.” That person doesn’t have the time 301 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,040 or doesn’t feel like checking all the media 302 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,160 and all the info. 303 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,360 So they are going to keep that speech of 304 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,200 “My mother has a shitty pension 305 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,320 and has to deal with squatters in her building 306 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,200 who are conflictive, and those people get social benefits.” 307 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,040 But it’s not like that: 308 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,840 the reality says there’s not such a squatters problem, 309 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,400 the facts say there’s not such a problem in Spain, 310 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,800 but a giant business 311 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,200 with security companies. 312 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,760 That's it. This to summarize. 313 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,960 And responsibilities should be clarified at the board, 314 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,360 because it often happens, and I know 315 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,120 cause I’ve worked in TV networks, 316 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,520 that decisions 317 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,440 are made in a very intentional way, in my opinion. 318 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,360 A very liquid and obtuse way. 319 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,560 I mean, what you see in the news 320 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:55,720 has passed through many hands and you don’t know who made the decision. 321 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,120 And when at 7 in the morning 322 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,560 you start to receive teletypes, 323 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:02,600 the rundown starts to be made 324 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:03,920 and those decisions 325 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,560 don’t only come from every section boss: 326 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:08,880 they come from the news direction, 327 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,760 they also come from the people 328 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:11,840 who put money on the news, 329 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,760 they come from the political parties… 330 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,000 Because a lot of people don’t know it, 331 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,000 but as a worker of some TV news 332 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,480 I can tell some people pay a quantity, 333 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:22,200 other people pay less, 334 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,040 then at the end of reports 335 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:29,800 the face of the PP guy gets 7 more screen seconds 336 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,440 than the face of the PSOE guy. 337 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,720 It’s an example but it’s true. 338 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,120 So they are not only the hoaxes, 339 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,600 we also swallow a lot of information 340 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:42,880 which is subliminal. 341 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,800 I always remember when people used to say 342 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,400 - I don’t know if it was a myth or it was true - 343 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,520 about Coca-Cola ads. 344 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,000 People said they went to the movies 345 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,320 and suddenly they watched some frames of Coca-Cola 346 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,400 that made them Coke-thirsty! 347 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:58,640 Well, with the Popular Party, 348 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,440 for example, it’s the same, ok? 349 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,680 But this is real: 350 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:05,000 you see more seconds of them in Antena 3. 351 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,440 If you don’t believe me, 352 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,000 go get in front of your TV 353 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,800 watch it and count the seconds of the images. 354 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,040 They are more screened. 355 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,080 So it’s not just some things are invented, 356 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,720 it’s that there is today’s rundown 357 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:24,080 with a 25 minute news without the sports section, 358 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,000 and 15 minutes are about squatters, 359 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 then you become obsessed about squatters. 360 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,320 At a family dinner 361 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,120 when your cousins say: 362 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,640 “What do you think about squatters?” 363 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,920 They are already creating the frame 364 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,120 of the debate to have while having dinner. 365 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,120 You are going to talk about squatters, 366 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,440 not evictions. 367 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:43,600 You’re going to talk about squatters 368 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,080 from a permanent defense position, 369 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,280 to counter-inform, to counter those arguments. 370 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,320 Because if you talked about evictions, 371 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,480 like after 15M 372 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:55,920 and all that wave, 373 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,960 the moment you talk about evictions 374 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,600 you go to the origin of them and who commits the eviction. 375 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:02,720 Now, when you talk about who, 376 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,440 you realize you’re messing with the economic power. 377 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,440 You’re questioning that structure. 378 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,160 However, by talking about squatters, 379 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,480 you’re pointing at the weak ones 380 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,400 who are at the bottom of the ladder, the ones “who don’t want to work”, 381 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:17,880 “who take advantage of social benefits”... 382 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,600 Just to hide 383 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,040 who’s behind all those evictions 384 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,520 and the housing structure. 385 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:31,240 Of course, fear moves much more than other feelings. 386 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,560 And also, and this is a different thing in Atresmedia and Telecinco: 387 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:39,280 the important role that security alarms ads had played. 388 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,000 For example, in the TV case, 389 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,720 I think a lot of these men 390 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,920 that talk against squatters, and say that 391 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,040 if you go to the groceries they will break into your house, 392 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,360 and they tell stories which later are 393 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,560 shown as lies but they don’t care, 394 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,840 they are doing this because it’s politically effective, 395 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,920 and because of advertising, 396 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,840 the big media probably started doing it 397 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,080 because of this. 398 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,720 So in this sense I do believe there are 399 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,240 different motivations. 400 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,920 On one hand, I think in Twitch, YouTube, 401 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Telecinco and Atresmedia, the same topic is addressed 402 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,120 but for different reasons, 403 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,360 and I also think fear has become 404 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,480 a key factor for politicians 405 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,520 and they are using it very well. 406 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,000 For something to work, 407 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,120 communicatively, 408 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,040 it needs a narrative that causes an emotion, 409 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,600 that activates one of your emotions, 410 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,160 whether it’s a positive or a negative one. 411 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,960 Then normally the strategy 412 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,320 is to make a narrative that pisses you off, 413 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:37,920 for you to mobilize 414 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,600 and share that content, even with 415 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,680 some insults thrown to the people, 416 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,080 organizations or ideas behind. 417 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,280 So, protected by that impunity, 418 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,680 there are several levels of manipulation. 419 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,760 One of them is writing a headline with a clickbait, 420 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,840 another is a manipulated video, 421 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,600 cutting something, or an image. 422 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,360 You have these different levels but the thing is: 423 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,040 it needs to piss you off so it can be viral. 424 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,560 The difference between truth and lies 425 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,160 is that truth can be verified. 426 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,280 And lying is a speech that can work 427 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,640 for a long time but it’s seldom verified. 428 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,400 That’s why truth has this extra power 429 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,760 that lies don’t have. 430 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,640 At the end, you can verify it, and people say 431 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:16,760 “damn, it’s true”. 432 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,760 And also, people are not stupid. 433 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,960 I mean, do you really believe there is a media owner, 434 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,160 and probably that media generates economic loss, 435 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,880 and he’s going to tolerate that a business 436 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,320 of his own doesn't defend his interests? 437 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,440 Are we nuts? 438 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,720 Please. 439 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,720 The thing is: to counteract something 440 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,000 we normally consume in 10 seconds, 441 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,280 for example a headline and an image, 442 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,920 although the whole news may be a little more clean, 443 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,920 the 95% of people doesn’t read the news, just the headline 444 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,280 with an eye-catching image, and shares it. 445 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:50,680 To counteract this, 446 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,920 we normally need to be very well documented, 447 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,360 to have an explanation that shows it’s a lie. 448 00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:57,520 For instance, in my case, 449 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,920 I sometimes need a 25 or 30 tweets thread 450 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:01,840 that takes me one, two or three days to collect 451 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,240 all the information to totally refute it. 452 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,720 But of course the attention economy, 453 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,160 the communication engineering, 454 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,760 in a 95%, 455 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,240 and actually we are having new formats like TikTok and etc., 456 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,840 that make us spend less and less time, 457 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,440 we have less and less patience to consume content, 458 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,960 and you need to be quick. 459 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,560 Disinformation. 460 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,440 Illegal immigrants attacking the Police! Watch this video. 461 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,240 Illegal immigrants attacking the Police! Watch this video. 462 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,320 It's the police running. 463 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,840 Fuck off! 464 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:37,600 Really?? 465 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,640 I’m not a racist but... 466 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,120 80% of Spanish people 467 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:43,800 have ever heard 468 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,320 some hoax about migrants, 469 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,680 according to Oxfam Intermon. 470 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:47,600 Of course: 471 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,960 they are quick, simple and outrageous. 472 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,000 Hoaxes are a powerful tool, 473 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,840 and they only were the prelude to something bigger. 474 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,120 Journalism has been replaced by opinions 475 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:59,560 and gimmicks with a clear objective: 476 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,800 to constantly appeal to emotions. 477 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,600 Traditional and digital media 478 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,960 have become experts 479 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,400 on creating sensationalist stories 480 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,080 which, brought to real life, 481 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,080 are either ultra-minimum cases or directly a lie. 482 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:14,840 Lies that can always 483 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,480 be unmasked by facts. 484 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,400 There are almost 26 million houses. 485 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,360 These are the denounces: 486 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:23,600 this last year we had around 17000, 487 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,800 so just the 0,07% of houses 488 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:28,760 are squatted ones. 489 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,240 Is that a problem? Yes it is. An occasional one? Yes indeed. 490 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,920 A generalization and a common issue? 491 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,600 Economy and data say: no way. 492 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,280 The cases are not increasing. 493 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,280 In fact, they are decreasing. 494 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,840 And then you have that story 495 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,240 about this poor grandma who goes to the groceries 496 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,200 and when she’s back home, 497 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,480 squatters have taken over it. 498 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,440 This is a complete lie. 499 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,680 This is completely hysterical. 500 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:52,680 But the most important part here 501 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,880 is what the Penal Code says: 502 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,880 that felony is set forth in Article 202.1, 503 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,520 and can be punished with 6 months to 2 years of imprisonment. 504 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,440 So it’s not true that squatters can take over your house 505 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:05,520 and you have to wait… 506 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,440 No: if somebody breaks into your house, 507 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,360 the Police, with the Penal Code 508 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:10,000 on their side, 509 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,680 can kick the door down 510 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:12,920 and take off the intruders. 511 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,600 So the economic facts say 512 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,040 there is not such a big alarm; 513 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,960 the Law says 514 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,600 there is no impunity. 515 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,600 Are there some cases? 516 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,440 There’s no way to deny it. 517 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,080 But is there a general alarm? 518 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,480 There’s no way to claim it. 519 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,360 But facts or documentation 520 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:30,680 are useless a lot of times, 521 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,760 especially with 522 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,720 professional fake news spreaders. 523 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,760 How do these people work? 524 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,320 “Let’s see it, it’s unbelievable” 525 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,920 One: They are moved by their anti-feminism, 526 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:40,600 racism, 527 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:41,920 LGBTQphobia… 528 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,200 To attack everything 529 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,000 that they consider as ‘woke’. 530 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,400 They attack the collectives’ rights 531 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,520 because they believe that hetero, 532 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,360 cis, white and right-winged men 533 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:53,200 are losing their privileges. 534 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,760 They appeal to a fake discrimination 535 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,040 to have a perfect niche of audience. 536 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,040 “You may not believe me, 537 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,720 but I’m gonna try to convince you 538 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:01,920 in the next 4 minutes” 539 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,200 Two: They search for easy targets to attack 540 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:05,760 and humiliate them 541 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,480 from their YouTube or Twitch channels. 542 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,520 They prey on women 543 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,280 who are taking their first steps on the communication field, 544 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,120 or with queer people, activists 545 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:14,400 and left-winged politicians. 546 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,120 "I'm going to watch more things 547 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:19,480 cause this is great video material." 548 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:20,880 Three: 549 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,840 They ridicule their victims. 550 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,160 They are experts on using 551 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,640 the straw man fallacy. 552 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,480 We want legal and safe abortion! 553 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,760 You enjoy killing babies! 554 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:30,920 Four: 555 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,000 They feed their communities to become stronger. 556 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,080 We already lived this back in the 90s with the neonazis: 557 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,000 one of them is a coward when alone, 558 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,640 but things are different while herding. 559 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:45,800 And five: 560 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,880 They forge the argument of a “cancellation”. 561 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:49,920 Meaning: 562 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,280 crying at prime time. 563 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,240 Now we know their modus operandi. 564 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,760 They say they’re winning the cultural battle. 565 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,560 But here we’ve played enough video games 566 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,280 to know that losing is never an option. 567 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:06,720 Shall we play a new one? 568 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,080 The Words World is under a spell. 569 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,120 Communication has been replaced by snake oil. 570 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:37,120 Manipulation took over the world and with its minions, the Bigot-tubers, get to have all the souls under its control. 571 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,160 “To fucking defend Spain!” 572 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,680 “Where's Men's day, uh?” 573 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,560 “Terrorists, immigrants, coupsters, the Constitution!” 574 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,640 “Communism or Freedom” 575 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,920 But maybe not all souls are under its control. 576 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,640 “The opposite to the Bigot-tubers” 577 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,320 Cheers, Wokie, and thank you for embarking on this adventure! 578 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,760 It’s up to you to break the spell. 579 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,760 You need to defeat the Bigot-tubers to end Manipulation for good. 580 00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:23,640 Don’t worry. 581 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,880 Our friends Reinas & Repollos will explain to you how to do it. 582 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,360 The cultural battle we must deal with 583 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:39,920 is just a smokescreen. 584 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,000 A spell which Manipulation and its minions defend 585 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,080 to control the narrative framework 586 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,400 where this so-called battle is going to be fought. 587 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,560 But it turns out this battle doesn’t exist. 588 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,320 Better said: it’s loaded, 589 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,320 because there is no guarantee of a fair cultural battle. 590 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,520 We are at our opponent’s field, 591 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,680 with their fans in the stands, the streets and the minds. 592 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,520 This context gives them a comfortable atmosphere. 593 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,880 This and the fact that they have no scruples, 594 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,760 give them a free highway for their attacks 595 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,400 to go straight to the heart of Humanity, 596 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,920 with their speeches going deeper. 597 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,560 Sometimes, when their points 598 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,520 don’t hold up, 599 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,840 or when we face them, they dip into their favorite spell: 600 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,920 the "We can’t say anything nowadays”. 601 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,160 They victimize themselves 602 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,080 and they start fighting in the stage 603 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,640 they best control: social media. 604 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,640 They do it in a couple of seconds 605 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,600 and use a violence that they wouldn’t use face to face, 606 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,600 but this stage empowers them. 607 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,880 Why? Because their ideas become 608 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,640 organic through algorithms, 609 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,680 24/7, daily and reaching audiences 610 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,240 that wouldn’t contact them by other ways. 611 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,280 Our past stages 612 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,360 were spontaneous social outbursts 613 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:53,960 to denounce injustice, abuse and violence. 614 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,600 They used to propose, not destroy, 615 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,840 and that was the way to make 616 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,720 every progress to build a better society. 617 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,520 But now that Manipulation has casted 618 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,760 the Submission Shadow spell, in a mind flayer style, 619 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,600 people who are bewitched, or asleep, 620 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,800 are seeing progress as danger or imposition. 621 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,800 That’s what the Bigot-tubers have made them believe. 622 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,960 While awake people 623 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,800 have escaped from the cavern shadows, 624 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,360 and they know everything is actually a spell. 625 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,080 Wokie knows that talking about “war” 626 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,000 is part of Manipulation’s plan. 627 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,200 Liberals are burning traditional 628 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,000 and social media down, using lip service. 629 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,160 And awake people must free the minds 630 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,240 that have been spelled. 631 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,760 This hive mind 632 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,040 talks about freedom while it’s depriving us of it, 633 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,320 because it steals from us the capacity 634 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,240 of living together with different ideas. 635 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,480 This spell will only be undone 636 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,720 when awake people 637 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:51,760 stop accepting 638 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,840 Manipulation and its minions’ narrative framework. 639 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,840 And when it’s undermined with a travel to another level. 640 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,080 This travel will free 641 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,800 their minds and souls from domination, 642 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,800 allowing communication to be fluent again. 643 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,080 The cultural battle will then be defeated 644 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,200 and it will be replaced 645 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,440 by cultural enrichment. 646 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,560 That’s what ChatGPT has recommended to us 647 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,800 when we have asked it 648 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,000 for a good substitute for this battle. 649 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,960 You have broken the Submission Shadow spell. 650 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,800 But… Watch out! 651 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,640 The mind flayer will come back stronger and deadlier to get the wayward souls back. 652 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,560 Now, Wokie, you must defeat more Bigot-tubers to end Manipulation for good, 653 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,760 replacing the cultural battle by cultural enrichment. 654 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,880 Bigot-tubers 655 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,440 are an ideological phenomenon 656 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,000 penetrating in young people above all. 657 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,440 There are already a lot of initiatives, 658 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,920 the key are 659 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,600 new figures to emerge and fight, 660 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,200 but not doing the same things they do. 661 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,960 When society 662 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,720 starts approving of certain 663 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,800 social advances and certain rights, for example, 664 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,680 for the LGBTQ community, for the migrants, 665 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,800 always with a little part of resistance, 666 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,000 the rebel thing is going against all that. 667 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,440 And when we have a progressivist government, 668 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,560 whether we like that progressivism more or less, 669 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,720 you will always have right winged people 670 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,640 playing against you. And in this case, 671 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,640 rebellion has been very focused 672 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,640 against feminism, one of the things 673 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,000 that have advanced more for these last years. 674 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,800 So I think they have found there, 675 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,320 on one hand, some content creators 676 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,960 who have been supported by the far right. 677 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,520 And this wasn’t a sudden idea 678 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,120 in Spain like “hey, let’s support 679 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:37,720 these bigot content creators guys”. 680 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,160 No, this actually comes 681 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,640 from the USA and from Trump, 682 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,240 when they start creating 683 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,040 platforms or Facebook groups 684 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,360 to spread fake news, 685 00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:48,400 and when they start supporting 686 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,080 and funding content creators 687 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,280 because they know 688 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,960 it’s important to reach a young audience 689 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,000 who wasn’t interested in politics. 690 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,880 Then is when they start funding 691 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,960 a bunch of men, 692 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,600 because most people, 693 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,120 YouTube and Twitch users are men. 694 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:06,160 I haven’t checked the last numbers, 695 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,760 but when I joined Twitch, 696 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,800 I think it was 75% vs 25% 697 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,040 When we made our first podcast episode, 698 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,800 I posted the first clip 699 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,160 which got viral on TikTok, because 700 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,880 I knew they were going to absolutely harass us. 701 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,320 Because we were talking about 702 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,680 a very concrete topic and you could tell 703 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,280 that bigot men were going to flood 704 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,840 against us. 705 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,440 And in the first seasons, 706 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,920 I made very concrete clips because 707 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,040 I knew they were coming for us, to attack us. 708 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,640 It’s also a part 709 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,640 of our success, 710 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,480 which is not provoking, on the contrary: 711 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,480 are you annoyed? 712 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,360 Ok, you will see. 713 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,840 So if this video has 714 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,000 200k comments 715 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,400 of bullying about ours mums, 716 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,720 I’m going to post 20 videos this week. 717 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,440 Seriously, I’m fascinated, 718 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,560 I’m having a ball. 719 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,320 It’s quite interesting, right? I like it, yeah. 720 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,840 The left said: “No, we are going to focus 721 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:57,920 on other things. 722 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,440 We already control social media. 723 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,440 There are enough leftist people 724 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,840 in social media who are battling. 725 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,080 We don’t need anything else.” A mistake: we have those 726 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,640 far right people 727 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,880 eating us in the field. 728 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,600 This, on one hand. 729 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,640 On the other, they obviously have their audience, 730 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,280 and that’s an audience who are actually 731 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,320 unhappy with the system, 732 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,640 young men above all, 733 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,160 who are unhappy with the system, 734 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,800 unhappy because they can’t leave 735 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,320 their parents’ house, like most of the Z generation; 736 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,480 unhappy because they can’t afford their own house, 737 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,360 like most of millennials; 738 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,760 or unhappy with all those problems they have: precarious jobs, 739 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,040 a salary that 740 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,440 doesn’t let them afford anything… 741 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,800 Where are they seeking shelter? 742 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,080 To these young men, 743 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,440 and some of them not so young, 744 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,360 by the way, 745 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,840 who tell them that feminazis 746 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,480 are the problem, 747 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,560 because we have advanced so much 748 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,840 that they don’t have anything left. 749 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,200 Because it’s always easier 750 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,680 to point out other people 751 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,920 or other communities 752 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,680 than saying 753 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,120 the problem is the system, 754 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,000 and we have to wreck the system 755 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,720 and to turn it upside down 756 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,920 if we want things to change, 757 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,120 and we have to go against the powerful people. 758 00:29:59,120 --> 00:29:59,960 There you really have 759 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:03,440 a peculiar thing: these people, 760 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,360 these thousands and millions of people 761 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,440 who support these men, 762 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,360 they are actually supporting the system, 763 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,960 they are not fighting against the system. 764 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,320 They don’t know it but 765 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,560 those people actually work 766 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,680 for the top 767 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,880 of the system, 768 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,200 and they are trying to bolster it. 769 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,360 What they always do: locking women inside their houses, 770 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,400 using migrants only for the most precarious jobs 771 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,120 and of course 772 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,640 paying them under the counter 773 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,960 and not having any consequences, 774 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,560 abusing them all the way, 775 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,000 etc etc… 776 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,560 So, at the end of the day, all those viewers 777 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,440 are supporting the same system 778 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,480 that made them deeply unhappy 779 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,840 and deeply precarious. 780 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,720 At the beginning, 781 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,600 a lot of these youtubers 782 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,520 used to make other kinds of content, 783 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,920 but they have found in anti-feminism 784 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,000 a big goldmine. 785 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:54,760 I mean, 786 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,600 with their content, they make a lot of money. 787 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,800 I think feminism 788 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,240 is a transforming force 789 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,160 in both ways, 790 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,840 from the left and to the right. 791 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,840 It queries a lot… It’s transversal. 792 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,000 It queries a lot of structures 793 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,800 and the hegemonic thinking, the patriarchy. 794 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,360 I think progress is unstoppable, meaning 795 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,840 we have already advanced some of the way, 796 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,200 and unless there is some zombie apocalypse 797 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,600 that destroys everything, 798 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,640 it’s impossible to… 799 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,080 Because when you open your mind, 800 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,040 you unblock it and nobody 801 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:27,760 can take it away from you. 802 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,240 So the fact we already 803 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,120 know bisexual people exist, 804 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,560 trans people exist, lesbian women, gay men, 805 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,080 all of gender identity and gender expression, 806 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,440 and the fact we are talking about it, 807 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,360 it’s a step you can’t forget, 808 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,120 like “Oh I will forget feminism exists!” 809 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,840 No, we can’t fight reactionaries, 810 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,600 but people already know what this means. 811 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,000 Yes. 812 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,720 I was recently watching this documentary 813 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,360 on the Alcasser girls crime. 814 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,960 And when you see that perspective you think: 815 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,960 Wow, how could they address crime like that? 816 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,400 How could the media act like that? 817 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,200 How the whole crime was used to create fear? 818 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,320 All the hoaxes and everything… 819 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,920 There is a part I believe 820 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,760 is now overcome, and we are making real progress. 821 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,560 But what happens is 822 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,520 that we always want more and we are very ambitious. 823 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,520 But we have some things that have changed 824 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,360 and that we are not seeing anymore. 825 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,000 For example, that 90s late night show, Mississippi. 826 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:15,720 Nowadays on TV 827 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,240 it’s very odd 828 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,760 to have a show with a man 829 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,600 on a desk 830 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,880 surrounded by naked girls, 831 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,360 and people being ok with that. 832 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,760 The one who really should 833 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,800 stop certain behaviors is the law. 834 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,440 I think that some atrocities 835 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,680 are being committed 836 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,000 in the name of freedom of speech, 837 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,360 which shouldn’t be approved in any cases. 838 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,040 I mean, people are being slurred, 839 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,160 constantly and consciously. 840 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,320 People are lying 841 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,040 about our colleagues. 842 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,560 People are harassing our colleagues 843 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,720 and some politicians 844 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,840 on the first line, obviously, 845 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,280 but also content creators 846 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,160 like any of us, 847 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,240 even girls who dare 848 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,520 to give an opinion via Twitter, 849 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,640 and people are suddenly exposing them, 850 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,880 as if they were part of the power. 851 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,080 So I think something 852 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:01,880 needs to be done, 853 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,200 and I think if this can be stopped 854 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,080 in some way, 855 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,800 not the youtubers, just the hate, 856 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,000 I believe they can generate 857 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,400 other kinds of content. 858 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,000 Because it happens to me: 859 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,800 they make videos of me every week, 860 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,720 and I have never talked about any of them. 861 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,360 This surprises me, 862 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,680 because if there was a game of 863 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,800 “one says something, the other replies” 864 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,080 -a very macho thing, by the way- 865 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,080 and “I’m going to curse him”... 866 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,840 I would say, ok, 867 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,320 you can’t complain about it if you 868 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,520 are doing the same thing to make money with your channel. 869 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,640 But this is not a two-way case, 870 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,800 it’s a one-way case, all the time. 871 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,560 Besides, they have 872 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,520 a lot more resources, 873 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,840 and they have a legion of asshole followers 874 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,360 who are going to send you death threats, 875 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,560 pictures, 876 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,040 facts about your life 877 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,680 so you can see they control you 878 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,400 and they can attack you anytime. 879 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,440 And the reality is that 880 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,440 you go to the police 881 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,080 and they tell you there's nothing they can do. 882 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,520 It’s the way it is: 883 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,680 all of us have gone to the police 884 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,560 in some total crisis moment, and they have told us: 885 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,960 “No, look, we can’t do this. 886 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,120 If at all, 887 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,560 you can ask him to remove the picture. 888 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,880 And you could sue him alleging 889 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:08,960 data security 890 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,280 but with all the process you’re going to pay a lot of legal costs 891 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,960 and eventually he will only be sentenced to remove the picture.” 892 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,000 And you think: “Oh, thank you very much, officer.” 893 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,200 I think police training 894 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,480 should be stricter 895 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,720 in this sense, because when 896 00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:24,240 we talk to lawyers they told us 897 00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:25,440 there are ways, 898 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,800 but they seldom know them, 899 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,040 due to being something 900 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,440 in constant change. 901 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,360 And it’s so new 902 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,520 that sometimes they don’t know 903 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,120 that things against this kind of bullying 904 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,080 can be done. 905 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:42,920 What’s Memecracy? 906 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,800 Since the Internet and social media appeared, 907 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,760 there have come up some communication methods, 908 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,520 increasingly user friendly and open to everybody. 909 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,600 One of them is the meme, 910 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,520 with a universal character and totally democratized. 911 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,240 Everyone can make an idea universal with them: 912 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,400 they are useful for all kind of topics 913 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,640 and, in politics, 914 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,040 both left and right use them. 915 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,040 Political parties use them, 916 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,320 influencers and content creators too, 917 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,440 and also the audience who consume them. 918 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,520 With memes you use humor, 919 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,240 sarcasm and irony, 920 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:23,680 and with just a glimpse 921 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,680 we can explain a more complex idea 922 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,160 which would be longer to elaborate on. 923 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,720 To give decent working conditions to your women employees. 924 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:32,800 Turn your company logo purple once a year. 925 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,960 Memes can have a positive goal, 926 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,680 to generate sympathy 927 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,080 towards the point or person you’re talking about; 928 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,080 or a negative one, 929 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,000 to generate humiliation or mocking. 930 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,560 Let’s set two examples of positive memes 931 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,360 which have also been 932 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,200 the posts with the greatest acceptance 933 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,200 of two political leaders’ social media: 934 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,400 Both knew how to reappropriate these narratives 935 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,120 to make them coherent with their storytelling, 936 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,120 meaning with the things people told about them, 937 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,200 and then empathize with their voters. 938 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,760 *Looked at my kingdom, I was finally there, 939 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,360 to sit on my throne 940 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,840 as the Prince of Bel-Air, 941 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,800 huh!* 942 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,320 But not everything around the meme is positive. 943 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,880 Just remember: 944 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,200 make memes, but don’t become one. 945 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,280 Tell Albert Rivera about it: 946 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,040 he concatenated some memes back in 2019 947 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,480 which made him become one, after a catastrophic campaign. 948 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,800 The important thing in social media communication 949 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,160 is to become viral, 950 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,040 because that expands 951 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,320 your audience to people 952 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,560 who you couldn’t reach in normal conditions. 953 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,320 That new audience 954 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,840 will start seeing your next posts 955 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,520 and then you can have the chance 956 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,800 of offering the content you want to show 957 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,680 these people who you couldn’t reach by other ways. 958 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:02,240 And here the question everyone has: 959 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,280 What does a good meme need? 960 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,880 There are people who say they need to be ugly on purpose, 961 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,080 and there’s even a style for that, 962 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,640 named shitposting. 963 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,800 But if they become viral being ugly, 964 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,880 people may think they are viral just because of that, 965 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,320 though it’s not true, because the important part is the content, 966 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:22,800 the idea, 967 00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:25,360 beyond the communicative code 968 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,080 you use. 969 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,240 To me, 970 00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:31,600 it’s essential to have a flawless idea 971 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,920 that can’t be refutable. 972 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,640 Like everything in life, 973 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,720 substance over form. 974 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,400 So my preaching about memecracy is over! 975 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,840 Thank you for listening and see you in the media… 976 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,960 Well, in these ones that haven’t censored me yet. 977 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,120 I have to go now. My planet needs me. 978 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,680 What do you think 979 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,480 the new media need to attract 980 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,960 a general audience 981 00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:59,880 to leftist ideas, 982 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,440 and not only the people who already like them? 983 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:02,760 Money. 984 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,400 That’s what they need. Resources. 985 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,440 Resources to hire many people, 986 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,640 good people, 987 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,200 to make quality products, 988 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,760 to understand the ideological codes 989 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,440 which are working now, 990 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,760 that are not so simple. 991 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,440 Many times, we the leftist people 992 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,880 while doing journalism have been pretty lame. 993 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,360 We have been pamphleteers. 994 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,160 This is an ugly word, 995 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,360 though a pamphlet 996 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,800 is a beautiful thing. 997 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,000 It’s like we’re accepting advertising 998 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,400 while the word pamphlet scares us. 999 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,120 But this word, pamphleteer, 1000 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,240 meaning 1001 00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:36,720 we use to express things in a way 1002 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:38,520 nobody understands. 1003 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,760 We the leftist people 1004 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,120 love philosophy, digressing, 1005 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,920 having very deep thoughts… 1006 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:45,920 Class struggle, 1007 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:46,800 social justice 1008 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,360 and everything that is very fine, 1009 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,800 but I think we need to start 1010 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,880 leaving that framework. 1011 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,120 For instance, everybody talks about Ibai, 1012 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,240 this super famous streamer. 1013 00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:56,600 And we say that Ibai is able to 1014 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,680 convince a lot of people, by occasionally saying 1015 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:00,480 some leftist things, 1016 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,560 such as “in this chat we are not tolerating transphobia”, 1017 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,640 “taxes are good”. 1018 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,920 And he’s a guy who can entertain. 1019 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,160 His work is to entertain, 1020 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,560 and it takes him lots of hours 1021 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,320 to make that kind of content. 1022 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,560 But every now and then 1023 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,320 he says something that can influence 1024 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,160 his community. 1025 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,520 So I think we could 1026 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,600 learn from people like Ibai, 1027 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,920 or maybe explore other frameworks. 1028 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:22,880 Why not do a football show? 1029 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,680 We can talk about football, 1030 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,240 and don’t strictly about 1031 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:27,840 its political aspect, 1032 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,760 but to have the will to entertain 1033 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,200 and every now and then to have an editorial line. 1034 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,320 So I think we have a lack of entertainment, 1035 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,320 here in the leftist media, 1036 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,520 the ones who want to 1037 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,000 take political action from a mediatic place. 1038 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,840 I would aim for that: entertainment. 1039 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:42,760 I find very interesting 1040 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,480 what Rubén has said 1041 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,360 about entertainment, 1042 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,040 because at the end of the day everything is political: 1043 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,840 getting on a bus 1044 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,800 and giving up your seat to an old person 1045 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,880 is a political act, 1046 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,880 or walking in the street holding hands 1047 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,320 with your girlfriend, that’s political. 1048 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,320 There is this thing 1049 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,960 we need to let the people get, 1050 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,320 about everything being political. 1051 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,040 And from there we can start 1052 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,840 But in a safe space. Entertainment formats 1053 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,080 that ensure you won’t be hearing 1054 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,800 racist comments, nor homophobic, nor fascist, 1055 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,160 with no jokes about black people 1056 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,320 or fat people 1057 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,200 or queer people. 1058 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,800 I don’t know if it should be something 1059 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,680 specific or with the goal 1060 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,520 of having all the leftist content 1061 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,200 meet certain basic standards. 1062 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,160 I also get bored of 1063 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,280 always interviewing politicians 1064 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,880 and the same people. 1065 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:29,800 There are people 1066 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,160 from a cultural or entertainment environment 1067 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,280 who can perfectly have a leftist speech 1068 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,160 and who can spice things up. 1069 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,360 Carlota Corredera came to my show not so long ago, 1070 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,200 and she had an incredible feminist speech. 1071 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,400 So I think we need to 1072 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,600 open more doors. 1073 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,120 We mustn’t be old-fashioned, 1074 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,200 because traditionally we leftist people 1075 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,320 have been like “no, we don’t like the yellow press, 1076 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,120 nor Telecinco talk shows, 1077 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,800 nor entertainment shows…” 1078 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,680 All that smells like famous people's lives: 1079 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,000 singers, actresses 1080 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,240 or historical Spanish women… 1081 00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:03,880 We don’t like it. 1082 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:04,920 And I think this is a mistake, 1083 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,800 we must be there, 1084 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,880 increasingly, 1085 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,840 and shake 1086 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,120 a lot of complexes off. 1087 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,040 complexes about that. 1088 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,080 I believe 1089 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,960 a leftist content can be made 1090 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,120 attractive to the new generations. 1091 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,560 I do believe young people 1092 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,160 are politicized and they have concerns 1093 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:23,920 and curiosity about things 1094 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,200 such as the environment, 1095 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,840 climate change, the future… 1096 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,600 And about the gender question, 1097 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,120 and I’m pretty optimistic. 1098 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,400 But I also think 1099 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,440 that from the left 1100 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,680 we need to change 1101 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,720 the way we present things. 1102 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:37,560 I mean 1103 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,720 a big part 1104 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:39,920 of right winged people’s success 1105 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,000 is because of their very basic 1106 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,680 and very shallow content, 1107 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,120 which is very appropriate for social media. 1108 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,920 They just bring up a few numbers, 1109 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,640 like Vox does: “your grandma has a shitty pension, 1110 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,920 and the migrants have these benefits.” 1111 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,360 And who cares if it’s a lie? 1112 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,120 They give you the headline 1113 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,040 and people consume it quickly, 1114 00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,320 like it was fast food. 1115 00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:01,320 We need young people. 1116 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,840 I’m perfectly aware 1117 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,240 of the audience I can reach, 1118 00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:05,520 I’m not going to be a referent 1119 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,800 to teenagers or to 20-somethings. 1120 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,920 We need people that age 1121 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,920 who know how to work with those cultural codes, 1122 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,960 and who outstrip us too. 1123 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,520 It’s true that those keys 1124 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,160 have to come from empathy. 1125 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,800 Communication equals empathy. 1126 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,320 You can’t copy the system 1127 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,320 or model made 1128 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,280 by Antena 3, 1129 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,520 OK Diario 1130 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,240 or even Público. 1131 00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:31,120 Now the communication model 1132 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,600 has totally changed. 1133 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,880 I’m going to share a story 1134 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,400 if I can empathize with it. 1135 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,280 Just like the movies: 1136 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,360 why is cinema universal? 1137 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,120 Because each person can or can’t empathize. 1138 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,240 I like this movie or I don’t like it. 1139 00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:43,880 Same with the music: does it make me feel something? I will share it. 1140 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,000 The media need to copy this. 1141 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,080 I think this happens in every country, 1142 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,600 but in Spain it’s crystal clear: most people 1143 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,880 don’t give a damn about politics, they loathe it. 1144 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,960 So of course 1145 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,080 if you make a very political content, 1146 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,160 I think you will basically attract people 1147 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,600 who are already activists and things like that. 1148 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:02,440 I think there is a problem 1149 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,120 because normally the people who make 1150 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,440 this content, denouncing certain kinds of topics, 1151 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,800 have a political component, 1152 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,200 or are very focused on those topics. 1153 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,320 It eventually has 1154 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,600 a political content that many people 1155 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,920 don’t care about. 1156 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,520 Then, obviously, the way to reach those people 1157 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,560 who are not already supporters, 1158 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,360 has to do with offering 1159 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,960 contents like the big media do: 1160 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,640 entertainment contents, 1161 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:27,560 but they also put 1162 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,440 politics on them, 1163 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,000 there are a lot of examples. 1164 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,400 I want to believe that there is 1165 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,560 a group of people 1166 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,360 who can react to certain information 1167 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,200 like “ok, I will listen to you” 1168 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,360 and explain to them that Spain is not going to crash down, 1169 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,840 that this country is not on its way to ruin 1170 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,200 just because there is a progressive government. 1171 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,960 Because we come from a progressive government 1172 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,240 and we have some very, 1173 00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:53,120 very good economic numbers 1174 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:53,760 and they are real. 1175 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,440 Or that nobody’s going to break into your house, 1176 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,680 or that your brother in law’s business 1177 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,360 is not going to go bankrupt. 1178 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,800 I want to believe that if we change 1179 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,280 that way of presenting that information a little bit, 1180 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,840 and that if we try to reach people, 1181 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,040 we will be able to win a group of people over. 1182 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,400 But it’s true that there are 1183 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,080 a lot of people who can’t be saved. 1184 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,000 I mean, if you go to Ferraz to pray to the Angelus 1185 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,000 it’s like “girl, I surrender, 1186 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,120 I can’t do anything else 1187 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,600 than turn you into a meme 1188 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,960 and make fun of you. 1189 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,120 Because what can we do? 1190 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,520 There is this point of no return 1191 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,560 which is a red flag. 1192 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,320 If someone tells me they have been at Ferraz street 1193 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,240 in a Hernán Cortés costume, I will say 1194 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:29,520 “oh boy, that’s all”. 1195 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,120 Girl, I think there is 1196 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,240 a part of responsibility of, 1197 00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:34,080 to start with, 1198 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,520 a left that hasn’t known to say 1199 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,160 “we need to be here pointing out these things”, 1200 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,480 and also of a lot of people 1201 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,160 who maybe didn’t know, 1202 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,040 or nobody had told us, that being there 1203 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,920 was important, and we have come late. 1204 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,600 The truth is that 1205 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,840 five or six years ago you watched YouTube 1206 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,080 and there were those kinds of contents. 1207 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,640 And you could watch a video, 1208 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,920 and another, and another, and everything looked exactly the same. 1209 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,160 There is this book, 1210 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,760 ‘Men who hate women’, written by Laura Bates. 1211 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,640 She makes an experiment 1212 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,400 taking a brand new computer, 1213 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,480 with no logged YouTube or similar accounts, 1214 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,080 and she plays a YouTube video, 1215 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,880 one with a woman giving a speech. 1216 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,320 When it ends, the shuffle mode is on, 1217 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,560 so let’s see where it gets me. 1218 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,280 Three videos later, YouTube plays 1219 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,440 a Jordan Peterson’s video. 1220 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,080 So it’s obvious that there is an algorithm 1221 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,800 which is in powerful people’s hands. 1222 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,240 And whom do powerful people benefit? 1223 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:19,720 The people that support their system, 1224 00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:21,120 as we were saying before. 1225 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,240 Therefore, 1226 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:23,640 this is a tainted algorithm. 1227 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,160 There is a left that wasn’t there, 1228 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,800 and there is a right that noticed things much earlier 1229 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,160 and was there, so they offered all the content 1230 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,640 that was wanted to be listened to. 1231 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,400 And then we have 1232 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,920 the people who believe their speeches. 1233 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,760 They believe that speech about the progressivist dictatorship 1234 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,080 that can take everything away from me, 1235 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,120 while they are not realizing 1236 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,880 that they have absolutely nothing. 1237 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,680 And that the cause of that 1238 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,560 is the system. 1239 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,400 We’re seeing it 1240 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,080 in Argentina, with Milei’s victory. 1241 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,120 He won because he talked about conspiracies, 1242 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,760 about those “leftist who are crashing everything down” 1243 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,600 but who is he ruining? 1244 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,560 Those same poor people who have supported him. 1245 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:58,280 Those same poor people 1246 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,320 who have believed all his conspiracy theories 1247 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,800 and who have given him the power. 1248 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,040 Because without them, 1249 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,120 without the common people, without the working class 1250 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,480 who are actually all of us, and we are the vast majority, 1251 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,840 a leader couldn’t be chosen. 1252 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,320 If he was only voted by rich people, 1253 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,520 or people of his class, 1254 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,200 he wouldn’t govern, ever. 1255 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,560 But of course they have their minions 1256 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,920 who tell people 1257 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,960 “yes, voting him will be very good for you, 1258 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,000 he’s from high caste 1259 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,960 but don’t worry, high caste is going to end with high caste.” 1260 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,800 So that’s the situation we’re living in now. 1261 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:25,440 I think we need to try 1262 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,120 and take advantage of the Internet. 1263 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:27,800 It offers a lot of possibilities 1264 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,320 to produce a radio show. 1265 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,360 A Prisa executive told me that 25% 1266 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,440 of Cadena Ser listeners 1267 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,680 listen to the station via the Internet. 1268 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,720 Well, we will have to work there, 1269 00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:39,240 and raise awareness 1270 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:40,400 about being a militant means to pay. 1271 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,960 As customers, although the easy thing to do 1272 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,040 is turning the TV on 1273 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,040 and having it like background noise, 1274 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,640 it’s important to, 1275 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,440 as customers, be responsible. 1276 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,360 I know it’s complicated, 1277 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,200 it’s like consuming food and etcetera: 1278 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,560 it’s more expensive, 1279 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:55,640 it’s more difficult, 1280 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,360 but I think it’s the ethical thing to do. 1281 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,800 As an Internet user you have the responsibility 1282 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,200 of not feeding 1283 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,200 those people whose behavior 1284 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,400 is not ethical or doesn’t correspond 1285 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,080 to the role they play in society. 1286 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,680 So there is a call for people to not visit 1287 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,280 places where they lie, 1288 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,720 and to try to support the media 1289 00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:14,200 that try 1290 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,520 to do a more 1291 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,680 journalistic work. 1292 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,120 Who’s behind Ferreras, 1293 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,960 Ana Rosa Quintana, Susanna Griso, 1294 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,800 or Vicente Vallés? 1295 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,200 These are some 1296 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,440 of the most well-known faces 1297 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,160 from the most important Spanish media. 1298 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,880 However, we all know they are 1299 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:29,840 just the spearhead 1300 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,080 of big companies and clusters. 1301 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,200 A media is a tool, 1302 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,080 such an ax. 1303 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,240 An ax can be used to cut down a tree, 1304 00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:40,520 or to attack somebody. 1305 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,960 It depends on what hand is holding 1306 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,560 that ax, it can be used for very different things. 1307 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:46,560 Therefore: 1308 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,960 in what hands are the media? 1309 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,080 Mediaset, the cluster 1310 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,760 where Cuatro or Telecinco belong, 1311 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,680 is mostly controlled by vulture funds 1312 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,520 and the successors of Italy’s controversial 1313 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,600 ex-president Silvio Berlusconi. 1314 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,440 While Atresmedia, 1315 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,840 where Antena 3 TV or La Sexta TV belong, 1316 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,880 is controlled by Planeta Group 1317 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:08,920 and the German 1318 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,160 communication’s giant UFA/RTL. 1319 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,760 Besides, in its board 1320 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,120 we have found executives 1321 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,520 who come from banks such as JP Morgan 1322 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,080 or, check this out, insurance brokerages. 1323 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,840 And we can’t forget about Mauricio Casals, 1324 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,680 president of the newspaper La Razón, 1325 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,480 and Atresmedia’s deputy chairman. 1326 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,400 A personality directly linked 1327 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,480 to the political power 1328 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,480 who convinced the PSOE 1329 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,400 to retire advertising from public TV 1330 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,880 to benefit private ones. 1331 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,400 He was the one who acted as 1332 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,000 an intermediary between Mariano Rajoy 1333 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,600 and the Police’s ex chief Villarejo. 1334 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,400 Furthermore, Prisa Group, 1335 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,480 with media such as the newspaper El País and Cadena Ser radio 1336 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,680 is in Amber Capital Group’s hands, 1337 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,160 an investment fund that is controlled 1338 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,640 from Cayman Islands’ tax haven, 1339 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:53,960 where big European fortunes 1340 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,240 are hiding dirty money. 1341 00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:58,520 Santander Bank owns some shares too. 1342 00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:00,120 Another big group 1343 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,400 in our country 1344 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,280 is Vocento, 1345 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,280 where we can find media such as the newspaper ABC 1346 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,120 or COPE radio. 1347 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,440 Its main stakeholders 1348 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,560 are the investment fund 1349 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,640 Cobas Asset Management 1350 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:10,760 and the Ybarra family, 1351 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,200 whose father was also BBVA Bank’s president. 1352 00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:19,200 Besides the stakeholders, 1353 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,720 nowadays it’s very important 1354 00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:23,600 to have brands’ ads on those media, 1355 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,600 because in the Internet and digital platforms’ era, 1356 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,000 these media are living 1357 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,200 in a true advertising crisis. 1358 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,320 The insurance company Securitas Direct 1359 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,920 has been a leader in the ranking 1360 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,400 of advertising pressure in most of the media, 1361 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,880 coinciding with the anti-squatters campaign 1362 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,840 that every summer floods the TVs, 1363 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,440 radios and newspapers all across the country. 1364 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:48,560 Banks, 1365 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,320 investment funds, vulture funds, 1366 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,400 billionaires, multinationals… 1367 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:53,760 This is just a snippet 1368 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:54,840 from the power’s big picture 1369 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,720 behind the big media. 1370 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,920 Let’s remember that information is a right 1371 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,960 included in the Spanish Constitution. 1372 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:03,800 And within the Rule of Law, 1373 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,280 free citizens 1374 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,680 must be well-informed 1375 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,080 to be able to control the power. 1376 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,320 But if the power itself 1377 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,680 is behind the information we consume every day, 1378 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,920 how will we be able to control it? 1379 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,600 It’s essential to bet 1380 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,040 on independent media, 1381 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,240 not funded 1382 00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:21,840 by the way we have just watched. 1383 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:23,880 And it’s also essential 1384 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,200 to think about achieving a media law 1385 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,520 that forbids or punishes malpractice, 1386 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,760 both when funding and executing. 1387 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,680 A media law would be, 1388 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,680 for me, something we should 1389 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,200 reconsider, from the left. 1390 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,840 Something we need 1391 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:46,720 to fight for. 1392 00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:47,760 Because, in all our manifestos, 1393 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,040 we talk about climate change, 1394 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,480 feminism, racism, 1395 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,880 economic structure… 1396 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,200 But we often forget to talk about the media. 1397 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,400 And with no media, 1398 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,400 we won’t be able to do anything at all. 1399 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,120 We won’t have any chances. 1400 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,720 How come a narco’s friend, 1401 00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:07,160 from the most corrupt 1402 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,880 political party in our democracy, 1403 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,840 is the most voted one in this country? 1404 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:11,880 There’s no explanation, 1405 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,640 unless you have the collaboration, 1406 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,120 besides the judicial power and all, 1407 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,160 of the mediatic power. 1408 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:17,880 The mediatic power 1409 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,440 is able to create that consensus 1410 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,800 of people voting the right. 1411 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:21,760 When they talk about squatters, 1412 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:22,720 they generate fear. 1413 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:24,640 And fear leads to voting the right. 1414 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,400 Why? Because it doesn’t allow us to talk 1415 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,840 from the left, from hope, 1416 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,840 from transformation. 1417 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,440 And they will never permit this. 1418 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,880 But a media law would be… I hope we see it. 1419 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,080 The three thirds system. 1420 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,560 A third of public media, 1421 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,240 not dependent on the Government 1422 00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:41,480 but dependent on the Parliament, 1423 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,720 dependent on the expression, 1424 00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,040 on the plurality of what citizens vote. 1425 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,440 A third of private media 1426 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,160 but, of course, with a limit to oligopolistic 1427 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,320 practices or to the presence of multinationals, 1428 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,920 investment funds and banks. 1429 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:53,600 And also 1430 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,320 a third of communal media, 1431 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,160 with a good funding 1432 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,160 to allow the civil society to express itself. 1433 00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,120 This is easy to say, 1434 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,560 but taken to practice 1435 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,480 is not easy at all, 1436 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,560 and anyone who wanted to carry this forward, 1437 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,120 would front a whole media army 1438 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,000 with putschist journalists willing 1439 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,160 to whatever. 1440 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,440 Because this will be, basically, 1441 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,040 to force them to say goodbye to the goose that lays golden eggs. 1442 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,080 Just imagine if you tell one of these guys 1443 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,720 “I’m going to take the power away from you, 1444 00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:18,200 because I’m going to democratize it.” 1445 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,320 They would hang their mothers, if necessary, 1446 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,240 to prevent this from happening, 1447 00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:24,080 but that’s how politics have always been. 1448 00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:26,880 The same way laws for a lot of things 1449 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:27,880 have been made, 1450 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,360 at the end of the day the laws are frameworks 1451 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,120 where our daily behavior operates. 1452 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,320 I find it 1453 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,560 an essential thing, 1454 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,440 not only for the citizens, 1455 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,800 but also for the media. 1456 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,600 This will be a way to have a framework 1457 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,120 and not a free-for-all situation. 1458 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,680 I think it would go in favor of the truth. 1459 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,160 But it turns out that a media law 1460 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,000 is probably seen by many people 1461 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,000 as censorship and blah blah, 1462 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,000 but it’s actually like we simply want some standards 1463 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,440 to control veracity a little bit. 1464 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,280 Because a lot of things 1465 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,120 can be knocked down by giving facts. 1466 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,600 It’s like: you must prove this information. 1467 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,160 And we need some organism to control it, 1468 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,400 because if not, what’s the difference between 1469 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,840 Instagram and Antena 3, Telecinco 1470 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,120 or public TV? 1471 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:09,600 Although in social media this is happening 1472 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,320 right now, for example in X: 1473 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,440 this new verification that says something 1474 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,280 has no context, sorry but this is so. 1475 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,200 But it turns out that our country is traumatized 1476 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,720 when talking about freedom of speech, 1477 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:21,120 and we use it as a weapon 1478 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:21,600 like “this goes 1479 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,640 against freedom of speech!!” 1480 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:24,880 and well, one thing 1481 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,760 is freedom of speech, 1482 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,720 and a different one is lying to our faces. 1483 00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:29,560 But what happens is that people are scared because 1484 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,080 “oh no, there won’t be freedom of speech, 1485 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,120 they won’t be able to say anything.” 1486 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,520 Well, maybe the truth doesn’t have so many versions 1487 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,000 that anything could be said. 1488 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,160 But as we have that trauma, I think, 1489 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,120 which comes from the dictatorship era, and etc, 1490 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,440 like “freedom, freedom, 1491 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,840 and freedom of speech” 1492 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,120 but maybe what we really need is to re-educate people 1493 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,440 on what freedom of speech means. 1494 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,840 Because many people think 1495 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:51,680 that freedom of speech 1496 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,000 means to say anything, 1497 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,200 whatever, anything, 1498 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,760 whatever the hell I want. 1499 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:56,560 Insulting you, 1500 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:57,760 otherwise there is a limit to humor. 1501 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,760 Yes: humor has its limits, 1502 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,520 information has its limits, 1503 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:02,960 hoaxes have their limits, 1504 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,480 and there is this important thing too which is 1505 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,600 educating in informative responsibility. 1506 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,840 When we talk about things that happen to us, 1507 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,440 we use to feel 1508 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:11,680 the responsibility of saying 1509 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,480 “not all lesbians”. 1510 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:13,560 Not everything I say 1511 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,000 here represents every lesbian. 1512 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,920 This is my experience, what happens to me, 1513 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,480 and maybe I go to Valladolid 1514 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,320 and there are people who spit in my face, 1515 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,000 but not every citizen of Valladolid 1516 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,600 is homophobic, you know? 1517 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,120 As in the news you don’t have that contrast, 1518 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,080 we need an organism to prosecute things. 1519 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,080 I think it would be awesome. 1520 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,280 It would be terrific to have a media law, 1521 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,600 I think it’s possible 1522 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:34,800 but we are being 1523 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,080 distracted by other things. 1524 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,560 It must happen though, 1525 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:39,440 and I believe it will. 1526 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:40,560 And we will die 1527 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,360 having seen this regulated, 1528 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,440 because the situation gets out of hand. 1529 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,440 This is their shield, isn’t it? 1530 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,320 They use freedom of speech, 1531 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,800 press freedom, 1532 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,000 but actually, if you take any professional field, 1533 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,880 there is a minimum of regulation to practice 1534 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,040 their profession in an ethical way, 1535 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,680 or according to people’s interests. 1536 00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,600 An architect who builds a building wrong 1537 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:00,880 and it falls down, 1538 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,920 will obviously have to pay 1539 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,480 the damages caused. 1540 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,600 A regulation, for example, to professional drivers: 1541 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,920 truck drivers, besides having a limited speed 1542 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,200 with a tachometer, etc, if you exceed that speed, 1543 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,640 you get a fine. The same 1544 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:15,560 when you drink and drive 1545 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:16,680 and you exceed the alcohol rate. 1546 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,240 I mean, there is a regulation 1547 00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:19,560 for well-done work. 1548 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,120 Here we see professionals 1549 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,760 who are taking over almost every space. 1550 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,240 These media have been created to misinform. 1551 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:28,680 OK Diario is the key piece, 1552 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,240 the Spanish epitome, 1553 00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:32,240 the 0 mile, and then we had it 1554 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:34,080 in every political talk show. It’s the media 1555 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,400 that is probably seen by Spanish people 1556 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,200 as the worst of all, the one that misinforms the most. 1557 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,360 But then we see 1558 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,040 it is ten times more present than any other media, 1559 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,840 even than El País, the most widely-read daily. 1560 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,120 There is a whole network of media, 1561 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,600 in TV it’s impregnable, 1562 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:48,560 it’s taken over 1563 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,640 by an oligopoly of two companies 1564 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:51,760 that own every channel. 1565 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,200 And the free market is a joke, 1566 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,440 because they have the same employees: 1567 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,640 Eduardo Inda is in both companies, 1568 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:57,960 Carlos Cuesta too, 1569 00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:58,960 María Jamardo too… 1570 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,600 They are the same figures, 1571 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:01,560 in every TV channel, 1572 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:02,920 spreading the same shit. 1573 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,120 What are they talking 1574 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,600 about freedom of speech? 1575 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,480 What attacks freedom of speech the most is having banks 1576 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:10,640 and big multinationals 1577 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,560 and investment funds as owners of the media. 1578 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:14,480 And this is true. 1579 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:15,280 And when someone tells you 1580 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,360 “no, Amber Capital is not 1581 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,040 telling me what I have to write”, 1582 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,520 it’s a lie. It’s a lie: 1583 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,200 write three stories in El País 1584 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,320 against Amber Capital. 1585 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:24,320 Write them. 1586 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:25,680 It’s like, I’ve been there, 1587 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:26,680 I know how it works. 1588 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,040 Why am I not there anymore? In Cadena Ser radio, 1589 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,880 after being in the station’s 1590 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,840 most successful show, Aimar (Bretos, talk show host) 1591 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,480 told me “everybody listens to this show every night, 1592 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:36,560 you can’t imagine the messages 1593 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,160 I get from super important people, 1594 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,320 everyone is listening to this talk show.” 1595 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:41,160 Please, come on! 1596 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,240 So I think we must shake our complexes off, 1597 00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:45,960 and say that a media 1598 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,080 which a bank or a big company owns, 1599 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,280 is the opposite of press freedom. 1600 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,440 Until we don’t understand 1601 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,760 that information is a social good 1602 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,280 that needs to be protected, 1603 00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,640 we can’t talk about democracy, 1604 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,520 because if the ones 1605 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,120 who control that public opinion 1606 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,800 are those big companies, 1607 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,040 those big businessmen, 1608 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,240 those investment funds, 1609 00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:09,000 information is not free, 1610 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,200 it’s totally conditioned. 1611 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,760 I think that in the media law issue it’s also essential 1612 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,720 to explain to people 1613 00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:17,480 where the funding comes from. 1614 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,200 This is an utopia but it would be great 1615 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,360 to know, for example, 1616 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,280 if there are political parties that put money 1617 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,000 on certain media, 1618 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,880 or if they pay them trips, or caterings, or other things, 1619 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,320 just for knowing it. 1620 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,720 I think that the left situated at PSOE’s left 1621 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,800 claims journalism as the fourth power, 1622 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,560 and as one of the players 1623 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:37,920 to analyze, when we talk 1624 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,000 about electoral or social movements. 1625 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,400 This left always denounced 1626 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,120 the mediatic sewers and the pseudo-media 1627 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,600 that appeared with public funding, 1628 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,040 because those guys Alvise 1629 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,400 and Javier Negre, and others like them, 1630 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,800 have had Popular Party’s advertising campaigns, for example, 1631 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,720 this is more than obvious. 1632 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,160 So they have had public funding 1633 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,960 for what? For spreading fake news. 1634 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,800 It’s very difficult to have a Parliamentary correlation 1635 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,120 that facilitates this, 1636 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,200 basically because PSOE doesn’t want to. 1637 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,360 PSOE’s strategy 1638 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,520 is being an ally of the current media, 1639 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,120 not changing that structure. 1640 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,920 This is something destructive, 1641 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,840 they should talk to their psychoanalysts, 1642 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,120 because it’s like “if you think that you are going to 1643 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,040 be freed from the firing squad, 1644 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,200 you don’t know Spanish history.”